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Thoughts On Saturday's South Ward Protest

The South Ward is not going to look like this on Saturday, at least not for the first half.

Most New York Red Bulls fans are probably aware by now of the South Ward’s planned protest for this weekend’s game against FC Dallas. The three supporters’ groups, the Empire Supporters’ Club, the Garden State Supporters, and the Viking Army have decided to sit silently for the first half of the match to express their displeasure with the manner in which the club treated the US Open Cup. This is the culmination of much frustration amongst the fans, both over the past fifteen and a half seasons and within the current campaign.

Unfortunately, the debate over whether or not to protest (and what form a demonstration would take) has devolved, in part at least, into a debate over the merits of Red Bull’s ownership of the club. Are decisions too heavily based on Red Bull’s marketing strategy, or have the owners made valuable improvements to the club that outweigh these distractions? This debate has become quite heated and nasty, with supporters becoming very polarized between the anti-Red Bull and pro-Red Bull factions.

The news of Saturday’s protest has driven a new wedge between different groups of supporters – not necessarily along the same pro- and anti-Red Bull lines. Many fans believe that this is the best way to get the attention of the front office and team ownership, while others feel that the players need our support even more in this game, given the recent run of very poor form and the fact that Dallas is one of the top teams in the league.

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I’m a newcomer to the South Ward, as I only started standing with the Garden State Supporters in Section 133 this season. I make no claim to tell anyone else how to act on Saturday, and I expect that no one will do the same to me. I certainly support the more specific object of the protest: throwing away the US Open Cup was a shameful decision by Coach Hans Backe; it was disrespectful to the club and its supporters. Further, the insistence on playing three mid-season friendlies (away to Montreal Impact and the two Emirates Cup matches) and fielding strong sides in those games has and will hurt the Red Bulls this year.

However, it seems that the protest has become imbued with a certain anti-Red Bull quality as well. In an ideal world, the New York MLS team would be owned, named, and controlled by the fans (in the same way as Barcelona and Real Madrid, among many clubs with such a model). This club would have a world-class stadium in New York City itself, excellent playing personnel, and its first goal would be winning matches, with playing attractive football as an important secondary concern.

That club does not – and probably will not ever – exist. Some fans will probably attack me for my view, but I think that on the whole Red Bull has done a lot of good for this team, and that we should not conflate short-term failure (i.e. the team’s poor performances this season) with concerns about the ownership. I don’t like that we have to play so many friendlies, "Vettelgate" was a very poorly managed bit of marketing, and the decision to throw away the Open Cup was simply ridiculous. Like all of us, I've been annoyed (to put it mildly) with the Red Bulls’ recent form.

At the same time, Red Bull has provided the infrastructure for the team to succeed: we have a world-class stadium and one of the best squads in MLS. While I would prefer that our club badge did not include the logo of an energy drink, I will accept that because of what Red Bull has done to help this team and its fanbase.  Further, the inclusion of an anti-Red Bull piece in the protest may needlessly divide the supporters when our focus should be on the Open Cup debacle and prioritizing meaningless friendlies over trophies. The string of poor results since the end of April have brought this issue to a head: had the team been performing well in the league, this debate would never have reached its current stage, and the issue of Red Bull's ownership would not be part of the discussion.

I’m not completely sure about the decision to be silent for the first half on Saturday, but I do understand why the supporters’ groups came to it, and I will participate. We must make the reasons behind the protest clear to the rest of the fanbase (who should not tell the supporters’ groups to make noise, considering how quiet they usually are), the club, and the players, and those reasons must not include general objections to the Red Bull ownership. Including those concerns distracts from the immediate problems of the club, and would make the front office and ownership less likely to make changes. Red Bull is not leaving any time soon; the fans must accept that fact and focus our efforts on reshaping the club’s priorities toward winning games and trophies. I hope that our forty-five minutes of silence on Saturday will be a step toward that end.

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I hate how the protest has been conflated with the branding question. For me at least they are separate issues. I could see things getting very very ugly if the team is down a goal or two at half time.

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by M.L. Conroy on Jul 21, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully there will only be a smidgen of these kind of signs and I definitely hope the tifo doesn’t have a peep about it at all.

by JayWalk on Jul 22, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I fully support the trophies over friendlies stance and placing priority on the USOC. I would have gladly thrown away the Chivas game for an honest shot at beating Chicago to advance in the USOC.

However, it’s difficult to protest against RBNY not taking the USOC seriously when the supporters section was far from filled for the match against FCNY. Props to the supporters that showed up and brought the noise. Where were the rest that night?

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by Jeff Lyons on Jul 22, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Some of us were in the midfield seats for the first half

enjoying our prawn sandwiches. But it’s always harder to get to midweek games, particularly 8 PM kickoffs.

I suspect it also had to do with the fans knowing that the Red Bulls would put out a second- or third-choice team.

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by Ben Schneider on Jul 22, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would argue that the protest has only taken an Anti Red Bull turn on message boards. The official statements from the supporters clubs are very clear that the reason for the protest is the Open Cup debacle and the banners will have the same message.

by Mike Vallo on Jul 22, 2011 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the SGs could be a bit more specific.

There’s some wiggle room in what they’ve said for anti-Red Bull people to make it into that kind of a protest.

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by Ben Schneider on Jul 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s always harder to get to midweek games, particularly 8 PM kickoffs.

The South Ward required all three sections for the following Wednesday’s game against Toronto FC on July 6 at 8 PM. I think the free market spoke (and continues to speak) pretty loudly about how much the US Open Cup actually matters.

Anyway, with respect to the protest, I’m not protesting and I feel like I need to explain. Apologies for the spiel.

Yes, the team’s playing well below expectations, they’ve let 22 points on the table with their draws, they’ve been hot garbage on the road, management has made some head-scratching decisions (e.g. Brian Nielsen, Carl Robinson, Marcos Paullo all take up cap space yet they don’t play – so why are they still here?), the defense has lacked communication and common sense at times to the detriment of the team, the midfield is spotty despite looking great on paper, Theirry Henry’s trying to do the job of at least two players at a time, and Hans Backe seems in over his head. I get the anger. I understand it.

I don’t see how ESC and VA sitting down like the rest of the crowd for the first half will change any of that or send an actual message. I don’t see how GSS not showing up for the first half is going to make Roy Miller a better LB or make Juan Aguedelo not a rookie or have Mehdi Ballouchy stop making mistakes or many of the other things. You can write “Trophies Not Friendlies” over and over, but the fact of the matter is that the USOC game in Chicago was the team’s third in six days and running out the first team in such a short span would have been a wasted effort unless the team miraculously figured out how to play at Toyota Park. I’m not disrespected or offended by it. Whether or not they have a friendly at the end of July would have changed that. Putting up a banner exhorting management to do…something…isn’t going to turn any of those 11 draws into wins.

My point is that, yes, the team’s playing horrible and no Red Bull fan should be happy about it, but this protest will do nothing to fix that. The reality is that while the SGs do a great job with the atmosphere and I have a lot of fun doing it, it’s doesn’t really have an effect on the on-field performance. Similarly, I’m not sure how one can claim to be a supporter and then protest because the team’s not doing well. How is that different from a bandwagon or fairweather fan?

Anyway, just to conclude my spiel, I’m not happy with RBNY’s 2011 campaign but I’m not disrespected or offended by it to put me off supporting the team or even trying to have a good time at a sporting event (otherwise, what’s the point of going to games, really). Since I don’t agree with the reasoning behind the protest on top of the fact that I’ve been spoken for without anyone speaking to me, I’m not protesting.

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by John Fischer on Jul 22, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitely agree on the "spoekn for without being spoken to" part

But I think the club needs to get a message about the USOC. That’s the only reason I’m keeping quiet.

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by Ben Schneider on Jul 22, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forty five minutes of silence will hopefully send a profound message.

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